Comments on: Thinkpad T60P vs Macbook Pro http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/ emphatically static! Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:14:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0-alpha By: Archer6 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-14513 Archer6 Wed, 10 May 2006 19:17:45 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-14513 I called Lenovo direct and negotiated a great price on my T60. Give that it's OK to talk price here as opposed to the forum, I paid $1950 for a machine that lists for $2999. I have found that if ones spends some time they (reluctantly) will reduce the price. Just today I finally decided exactly which T60P I want, and managed to enjoy a similar discount. pundit- Thanks for the great report on the MBP! I have been agonizing over that one too, and have decided to wait for awhile before making that move. I called Lenovo direct and negotiated a great price on my T60. Give that it’s OK to talk price here as opposed to the forum, I paid $1950 for a machine that lists for $2999. I have found that if ones spends some time they (reluctantly) will reduce the price. Just today I finally decided exactly which T60P I want, and managed to enjoy a similar discount.

pundit-
Thanks for the great report on the MBP! I have been agonizing over that one too, and have decided to wait for awhile before making that move.

]]> By: pundit http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-14132 pundit Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:11:09 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-14132 What is this REMC? I just went through the (online) university store, and figured this was the academic pricing they'd negotiated with my university. Unless I'm totally wrong and that's not how it works at all. What is this REMC?

I just went through the (online) university store, and figured this was the academic pricing they’d negotiated with my university. Unless I’m totally wrong and that’s not how it works at all.

]]> By: Drew Robson http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-14125 Drew Robson Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:34:46 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-14125 $3799 down to $2299 is an incredible discount if you ask me. Is that because you got it through Michigan REMC? I've been trying to get academic pricing in New Jersey but it seems that IBM/Lenovo only discounts the system to $3039, which is still quite pricey. Unless I'm missing something? $3799 down to $2299 is an incredible discount if you ask me. Is that because you got it through Michigan REMC? I’ve been trying to get academic pricing in New Jersey but it seems that IBM/Lenovo only discounts the system to $3039, which is still quite pricey. Unless I’m missing something?

]]> By: ayaj http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-13988 ayaj Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:15:53 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-13988 Can someone let me know if autocad/maya/rhino/any type of rendering.... runs smoothly on the MBP? Also if someone has the t60p, can they compare the two? I am interested how in open gl apps, the ati 1600 compares to the ati 5200. Thanks. Can someone let me know if autocad/maya/rhino/any type of rendering…. runs smoothly on the MBP? Also if someone has the t60p, can they compare the two? I am interested how in open gl apps, the ati 1600 compares to the ati 5200. Thanks.

]]> By: pundit http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-13757 pundit Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:06:09 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-13757 Retarded or not, that is how they (IBM/Lenovo) seem to price it in the real world (as in outside education/government pricing). And people still end up buying them, <em>after</em> comparing them to a similarly configured, but much cheaper laptop from a different brand. In this example, that'd be picking up this Thinkpad for close to 4 grand when there's an (arguably sexier) alternative that's close to 3 grand available from a competitor. Actually, the other way around I am sure happens more frequently. I know people who're totally into Apple products, and will gladly pay a premium for the equivalent of your "designer logo". The company isn't selling them a product, but some sort of lifestyle badge or something. Currently, "being poor", I consider price (and even then, not really). But the moment I get a "real job", I too will just pick up what I want, at whatever price the company (in my case IBM) is offering it at; just because it's them. It's probably lazy, but it doesn't bother me. I think there are more subtle branding issues going on than I know how to explain or articulate. But you obviously know all this. Retarded or not, that is how they (IBM/Lenovo) seem to price it in the real world (as in outside education/government pricing). And people still end up buying them, after comparing them to a similarly configured, but much cheaper laptop from a different brand. In this example, that’d be picking up this Thinkpad for close to 4 grand when there’s an (arguably sexier) alternative that’s close to 3 grand available from a competitor.

Actually, the other way around I am sure happens more frequently. I know people who’re totally into Apple products, and will gladly pay a premium for the equivalent of your “designer logo”. The company isn’t selling them a product, but some sort of lifestyle badge or something.

Currently, “being poor”, I consider price (and even then, not really). But the moment I get a “real job”, I too will just pick up what I want, at whatever price the company (in my case IBM) is offering it at; just because it’s them. It’s probably lazy, but it doesn’t bother me.

I think there are more subtle branding issues going on than I know how to explain or articulate. But you obviously know all this.

]]> By: Adi http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-13756 Adi Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:49:47 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-13756 Well, that would be a retarded move in the part of the Company for the simple reason is that the consumers are too clever to compare and contrast between models. Now, say, if you wanted to spend another 1.5 grand, you will have to compare the same model with another one with almost identical pricing, say 4 grand, and see the differences in features. Obviously this laptop will lose out(unless its one of those "designer" models that comes with a designer leather bag and whatnot) heavily because its features are "comparable" to the 2.8 grand MacBook Pro. Well, that would be a retarded move in the part of the Company for the simple reason is that the consumers are too clever to compare and contrast between models. Now, say, if you wanted to spend another 1.5 grand, you will have to compare the same model with another one with almost identical pricing, say 4 grand, and see the differences in features. Obviously this laptop will lose out(unless its one of those “designer” models that comes with a designer leather bag and whatnot) heavily because its features are “comparable” to the 2.8 grand MacBook Pro.

]]> By: pundit http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-13755 pundit Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:42:12 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-13755 I got that much. But it's definitely better than being "marketed into" spending another 1.5 grand, no? I got that much. But it’s definitely better than being “marketed into” spending another 1.5 grand, no?

]]> By: Adi http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-13754 Adi Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:43:42 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-13754 Speaking of discounts, in reality, there aren't any. It's a marketing trick. Speaking of discounts, in reality, there aren’t any. It’s a marketing trick.

]]> By: pundit http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-13753 pundit Wed, 01 Mar 2006 02:19:36 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-13753 Ah, I see what the difference might be. I started experimenting[1] around RH 4.2, so DOS's capabilities in these regards immediately seemed inadequate. Besides, computers were only a gaming platform at that time (hence all my brain can immediately recall is memory and sound card issues). And I can't even remember the last time I used NASM. I think it was to compile a then-newfangled MP3 player---freeamp[2]---and it really enjoyed dicking around in assembly for performance reasons. [1] Worded to sound like I was into drugs or something freaky. [2] Now it doesn't even exist. But there's zinf---zinf is not freeamp. (And I hate it when my web log tool flags my own comments for moderation. And I don't notice it for a few minutes.) Ah, I see what the difference might be. I started experimenting[1] around RH 4.2, so DOS’s capabilities in these regards immediately seemed inadequate. Besides, computers were only a gaming platform at that time (hence all my brain can immediately recall is memory and sound card issues).

And I can’t even remember the last time I used NASM. I think it was to compile a then-newfangled MP3 player—freeamp[2]—and it really enjoyed dicking around in assembly for performance reasons.

[1] Worded to sound like I was into drugs or something freaky.
[2] Now it doesn’t even exist. But there’s zinf—zinf is not freeamp.

(And I hate it when my web log tool flags my own comments for moderation. And I don’t notice it for a few minutes.)

]]> By: pUl| http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/thinkpad-t60p-vs-macbook-pro/#comment-13752 pUl| Wed, 01 Mar 2006 02:10:31 +0000 http://emphaticallystatic.org/earlier/866/#comment-13752 Well, yes. Well, yes.

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